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ResponsesThis is a letter of response we received from two Elders in reply to the End Times message we sent out. Our responses are in red. From: XXXX XXXXXXXX * Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 11:42 AM To: Rusty Ames; XXXXXXX XXXXXX * Subject: Great Love
Dear Rusty and Mary, dear Friends and Brethren.
06/12/06
Greetings in the Wonderful Name of Yahshua our King.
We write you in great love and admiration about your
faith and fruits in Yahshua. I have not written you in a while and (Elder's
wife)* and I tell you that we love and miss you and your beautiful family.
Again we thank you for you love and hospitality you showered on us when we
were there. We hope to see you again soon. We pray for you every day, our
dear friends.
Please let me bring up a subject to you. Please read this
with peace and patience and I will try to say what is in my heart for you. I
so much admire the faith you two have in all things. In many ways Yahweh has
blessed you for that and your love for Him and His son. It is written, we
can not please Yahweh without faith. And with all other things required,
faith will save us. But in a truth, faith without works is dead.
(Our works prove our faith not the other way around.)
Faith
without fruits of righteousness is dead. And in all this, His promises, his
love and faithfulness and protection, we are to be wise, cautious and be
also led with wisdom and counsel. We counsel you today. There is safety in a
multitude of counsel. (We should get counsel ONLY from
those of faith) And a wise man will welcome it.
Mary has a medical situation that is quite extraordinary
to say the least. (Only western society is
pregnancy "a medical condition") We do not say she is not pregnant or that Yahweh has not
blessed you with another child. We do say this. He is not the El of
confusion. (We are NOT confused - YHWH has made it
clear to us) If He knew you would not go to doctor, He would have given Mary a
normal (Indicated by billions of women) a normal nine month birth.
(How do YOU know what YHWH would have done?) He set
the time of a woman in child bearing. In all this too, he expects us to be
prudent and do what we can in our own life through the wisdom and means He
has already given to us. Doing what we can to protect our family and
children is not leaving the faith, questioning or doubting Him in any way.
It is what He expects us to do. He does not expect us to follow Him blindly
into circumstances where we ignore signs of disorder or warning.
(There is NO disorder here, nor signs of
warning...only fear mongers telling us to depend on man.) Let us
look at scriptural examples in His own word. I will state three witnesses
that are similar to yours.
Noah was told by Yahweh that the world would be flooded,
and all life would die. He was told to build him an ark that would save the
life of his family. Noah could have said, I just have faith that you will
save us, and left off building. Or, when the ark was done, he could have
said, we don't need food, Yahweh will provide. No, Noah did all that he
could to protect, save and guard his family and obey Yahweh.
(Noah did ONLY what YHWH told him to do...he did not
pervert YHWH's instruction and do what HE wanted to do.) If we are not
wise and prudent, we are actually disobeying His counsel to be circumspect.
We may even be slack if we do nothing at all in hazardous situation where
Yahweh has given tools for us to use and protect us.
Second, Joseph was given the interpretation of a dream by
Pharaoh that there would be a famine in Egypt. Joseph could have said,
Yahweh will not do that, I will just pray and trust. No! Joseph and Pharaoh
set up a plan to protect Egypt and the people, and children by saving up
food. They did what they could, and even something's that were extra!
(The instruction to prepare was from YHWH and not a plan made by Joseph and
Pharaoh)
Third, in Yahshua's ministry, the Pharisees were so angry
and threatened with Him that they sought to kill Him. They thought He would
come up to the feast in the open, and they could apprehend Him. But He did
not go up with the disciples, but went up later in secret on another day.
Yahshua surly could have said: "My Father will protect me because my time is
not yet":. But, He used wisdom and went up at another time. Even Yahshua
used prudence when He knew that Yahweh was fully with Him.
(Yahshua NEVER did HIS own will...but only that of HIS
Father...if HE went somewhere, HE was sent...if HE stayed somewhere it was
becasue HE was told to do so) Do you think that
Yahshua had faith? We do! Faith without waving at all. And, He honored our
Father perfectly in all things. He did not dishonor or offend Yahweh by
being wise and protecting Himself. (Oops...I think you
just made OUR point)
It is good to trust Yahweh, and it is pleasing to Him.
However, when a situation comes up that is a major concern, we need to pray
first, then use wisdom in all aspects of that difficulty; And, receive
counsel in addition to prayer. (We have used the
counsel of those with faith...not the fearful and controlling) Also, Yahweh gives us tools and helps like,
money, people and facility to assist us. One more example. If you were going
on a ministry trip Yahweh told you to go on. It was a direct spoken command
in a night vision, verified by two other witnesses, and you found that all
your tires on your car were bald and leaking. Would you go and get new tires
or would you say, Yahweh will keep them strong. (When
YHWH gave these instructions, don't you think HE would have known the
condition of the tires and made mention of what to do regarding them if
mission failure was a possibility?) Wouldn't we do what we could
and what was wise, or ask Him to do everything for us, and we do nothing to
help our selves. Well this man went without fixing the tires, and the result
was he did not get to his important destination! It was a test of wisdom not
obedience .(This is YOUR fable and is only conjecture
to prove your faithless position)
Many of us believe that Mary has an extraordinary, even
hazardous condition. (YHWH has told US on numerous
occassions that there is NO danger - as for me and my house, we will follow
YHWH) We do not say that Yahweh is not doing a miracle. We do
not say that this is not a blessing to your family. We are saying that this
is not normal or the way that He works, (So are
floating axe heads, pillars of fire, parting of the sea, manna from heaven,
etc) and that there may be a
complication. Yahweh has given you tools, like doctors and midwives to help.
Even Israel had midwives in Egypt. That did not offend Him even
though every pregnancy is a miracle from Him. He never said, don't use a
midwife or doctor, ever. Even Yahshua said: "Those who are sick need a
physician:. (Accurate quoting of scripture says
"ONLY those who are sick need a physician") Pregnancies can be complicated or even dangerous. We need to
be careful, especially when things are not going normally according to His
ways. (This is going EXACTLY according to HIS plan)
We feel that this pregnancy is confusing
(You are the confused since you do not know and cannot
believe what YHWH has told us - granted it is abnormal) and abnormal
according to how Yahweh normally works as witnessed by billions of righteous
and unrighteous pregnancies. (Miriam and Sarah was
abnormal as witness by billions of pregnancies..) We beseech you, plead with you in tears to
please get some medical evaluation about this situation, even just a
midwife. Please do something to guarantee the health of Mary and the child.
(ONLY YHWH can guarantee the health of Mary and the
child...not a doctor) If there is any offence to Yahweh, we will bare if.f there is any sin, we
will accept it. (You should reconsider this
offer...first the is NO offence, and secondly it is
arrogant...anti-scripture. ) IBut, we tell you the truth, there is no sin in being careful
and prudent. (That which is NOT of faith is sin)
Please see a professional about this. (Yahshua
is our professional physician) Yahweh forbid, if any
thing goes wrong, think of the physical, emotional and spiritual damage it
could cause. If something goes wrong, will your words, "I am sorry" be
enough?
Again, please understand, we write this to you with deep
love and concern. We are for you not against you. We come to you with tears
and prayer that you will hear us. (Get
behind me Satan and you of little faith)
Yahweh be with you all and keep you safe.
Love in Yahshua,
XXXX XXXXXXXX, Elder *
XXXXXXX XXXXXX, Elder *
Our Reply:
Brothers (XXXX,Elder)* and (XXXXXXX,Elder)*
Thank you for your kind concern. We noticed that the pregnancy was the
exclusive subject of your reply - there was no mention of the
message that YHWH wants us to give to the brethren, and your
response to that! That message is much more important than the pregnancy
specifics. Satan is trying to take the focus off YHWH's message from a
watchman and redirect it to fear, doubt, and disunity. Don't let him
succeed.
We
also note that this is the FIRST time either of you have contacted us to
seek info on the leading of YHWH in this pregnancy matter. There has been
no offer of support, exhortation, encouragement, or shepherding. You have
had no apparent interest in talking to US about the matter - but instead
chose to discuss it amongst yourselves and other believers.
Indeed, there is safety in a multitude of counsel, and we have had
many confirmations that we are on the correct path - and only a few
naysayer's who limit YHWH. We have gotten frequent inquiry and encouragement
from other believers...admittedly, they do not totally understand, but they
have been quick to acknowledge the power of YHWH in the matter.
You do not know
that YHWH would have ordained a "normal" pregnancy since HE knew we would
not seek outside advice. If you have received genuine word from YHWH
regarding this pregnancy, why have you not previously offered it? Neither
you, (Elder)* or anyone else (except for a
few faithful friends) knows what we have been told by YHWH concerning this
pregnancy or any other health issue, and you have not expressed interest in
finding out.
Thank you for your generous offer to accept our
"sin". There is no need for remission, there is no sin in this matter. If
there is any offence to Yahweh, we will bare if. If there is any sin, we
will accept it. But, we tell you the truth, there is no sin in being careful
and prudent. To seek
outside "intervention" would be forsaking a vow to YHWH. Is that
your recommendation?
Mat 9:12 But when Yahshua heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Please do something to guarantee the
health of Mary and the child. Please
see a professional about this. There are no guarantees in life
except those provided by our Creator. YHWH is GUARANTEEING
the health of Mary and the child...we actually are just trusting YHWH (the
ultimate professional) to keep HIS word. As
(Elder's)* yard sign says, "We are insured by YHWH"!
We
feel that this pregnancy is confusing and abnormal.
YHWH is NOT the Elohim of confusion - we are NOT confused. We don't
"feel" that this is YHWH's mighty work--WE KNOW IT IS AND
ARE FULLY PERSUADED. The only confusion is why
believers cannot believe...and why so many who claim faith are so fearful.
Fear is the opposite of faith. Romans 14:23 says
anything NOT OF FAITH IS SIN, and since we ARE walking in faith, there is no
sin. (Elder)*, I know you have said that I "trust in YHWH too much", but
that is not possible. If you are present at my funeral, please announce that
"Rusty trusted in YHWH too much."
YHWH has promised safe keeping in this pregnancy and since we actually
believe that to be a fact, we vowed to allow HIM to be in control.
Giving up control is difficult for many - and very few of us do it. We
frequently allow YHWH temporary control as long as we can keep our annual
medical exams, retirement plans, and insurance policies. By exercising
control and planning to the "n-th degree", the faithless take divine
intervention out of the equation. Oftentimes, believers exercise limited
faith, but when YHWH takes them on a track they find uncomfortable or
unfamiliar, they jump back into the pilot's seat and take over to redirect
with prudence.
You said Noah did all that
he could to protect, save and guard his family and obey Yahweh. The
important thing about Noah was that he did exactly as he was told! Salvation
of the human race was not due to Noah's prudence, planning or superior ship
building. Noah could do nothing to save his family, or even himself. It was
only YHWH's mercy and protection and faithfulness and guidance.
You claim that Yahshua "did not
dishonor or offend Yahweh by being wise and protecting Himself. "
Why did HE stop Peter from slaying the soldiers when they came
to seize HIM? That would have been prudent, wise, human self-protection.
Why didn't HE speak in defense when questioned by Pilate to escape the
flogging and impaling? That also would have been wise self defense by
worldly standards. But, HE was operating on YHWH's timetable - that is what
we are doing...admittedly, we at first did not fully understand...but now we
do.
Yahshua did not exercise prudence, but total trust that
our Father has total control. Yahshua NEVER DID ANYTHING BUT THE EXACT AND
PERFECT WILL OF HIS FATHER. He knew that only when HE allowed YHWH to
direct the situation would it go YHWH's way. You as elders should be
leading the flock in a faith walk in this matter - not gossiping, doubting,
questioning and promoting fear!
YHWH, in Jeremiah 17:5, said that man is cursed who trusts in man and
makes YHWH's arm flesh, and Paul said
1Co 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with Elohim. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
Turning to man for a second opinion to YHWH is somewhat
ludicrous and even dangerous don't you agree?
Certainly the disciples questioned whether Peter could walk on water
when he stepped out of the boat (confusing and abnormal by billions of
swimmers), certainly many questioned the virginity of Mary (abnormal by ALL
other pregnancies), probably many said Sarah had "a tumor" not a pregnancy
(past normal child bearing age), the residents of Jericho mocked the sound
of the shofars ( it is abnormal for horns to knock down walls), some feared
and question the wisdom of a woman with one kidney bearing children
(illogical and dangerous), many doubt the hardiness of shoes and clothes
lasting 40 years (confusing and illogical by billions of shoes and
garments), some doubt the ability of an 85 year old couple to safely ride
out a category 4 hurricane in an apartment (foolhardy and dangerous by man's
standards), and the prophets of Baal did not expect Elijah's altar to ignite
(wet wood and stone do not burn)..etc.
We rejoice in your actions taken in faith, and
are sad that you question ours. As ordained elders you should encourage our
walk and exhort the brethren. Take this opportunity that YHWH is providing
to testify and proclaim HIS mighty work and the power of the Father. Cast
out the fear and doubt that evidently is rampant among the congregations.
Yahshua awarded leadership to those of faith. Yahshua told the fishermen
to leave everything and follow HIM. They did not keep their fleet fishing
just in case the "Yahshua deal" didn't work out. He did not tell them "to
buy new tires" or retread their sandals, but go without script. Faith
without works is indeed dead...that is why believing YHWH can deliver a
healthy baby to an older mother after an extended pregnancy is a natural
extension of belief. What a testimony...what an incredible act...what an
awesome Elohim!
DO NOT limit YHWH. (Elder)* loudly proclaimed the power
and mercy and protection that YHWH provided to HIS faithful during last
year's hurricane season. That was a stepping stone for us to expand
our trust level, and we found that as we stepped out in faith...YHWH was
more faithful in providing more grace. Is YHWH's arm shortened? Can he
protect in a category 4 hurricane but not in pregnancy?
This is NOT about us...we do not seek admiration of our faith. This
pregnancy was given to us by YHWH to give us audience to many about YHWH and
HIS power. HE is using the foolish to confound the wise.
We have 4 questions we would like you to answer:
1. Do you believe in miracles?
2. Do you believe that YHWH could safely
extend a pregnancy to 18 months?
3. Do you believe YHWH speaks to the Ames
family?
4. What is your response and action plan to the
message of time being short?
We know your letter is out of concern and love. We
wish we could impart to you the peaceful, calm, totally assured attitude we
have toward this phenomenal testimony of YHWH. We covet your exhortation
and praise of YHWH for HIS mighty hand. We pray that YHWH gives you the
warm, secure assurance we have about HIS mighty work. We hope that you
become forwarders of the original message that YHWH gave me to deliver, and
use this wonderful pregnancy as a tool of YHWH's miraculous control to
overcome fear and draw the brethren to a walk of faith, love and hope.
Shalom, Rusty Ames Psalm 116:1 I love YHWH because He hears my voice, my prayers. Psalm 116:2 Because He has bowed His ear to me, I will also call in my days. * We have redacted the names of the originators of the letter. |
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